Some useful infos about LLLT, maybe it will be useful to some readers:
You can do it wrong ! Underexposure is pretty much guaranteed with comb (unless you spend half your time awake using it) it’s an overpriced scam (not sure if “scam with a fair price” is a thing).
But, also very important to know: Overexposure can be worse than not doing anything (According to OMG).
Still according to him, reports from numerous of his customers seems to point towards 5 days a week being optimal, with at least 24h between two sessions (each 20 minutes).

That said, (that would need to be checked) I’m pretty sure there is about 0 clinical data to back this claim. You’d be on the safe keeping 48h between each session.

Hi*, ADHD, sorry 🙂

I commented earlier today on the wrong post (grey hairs), you can delete my previous comment (full of typos, written from my phone) !
First, I have to tell how grateful I am, and how much you deserve to be recognized as a hero in the world of hair loss.

I want to share my experience, then I’ll have a totally unrelated question.

So my experience: I started massages about 8 month ago. I’m 33, I’m seeing terminal hairs on areas of my scalp that were bald since I was 18. So much so than I’m quite convinced I’m on my way to recover the full head of hair from my childhood. 100% of my hair. I talked about that to my dermatologist and he insisted on the fact this was totally impossible under current assumptions about hairloss. He also told me that scalp tension was pretty much middle age science and was debunked decades ago. (Interestingly, yet totally unrelated, a French researcher: “Laurent Schwartz”, is in pretty much the same position on cancer. He cures people, with actual, publications, yet his approach relies on assumptions that are considered outdated. I guess that’s a pattern, interesting from an epistemological standpoint).

(I have ADHD, I get sidetracked easily).
So, to come back to my experience, until two months ago, my regimen was: massages, caffeine shampoo, castor oil.
I then introduced two things, in order: brushing (very hard, for 10 minutes every other days with a plastic brush), then two weeks later
LLLT (I bought a OMG helmet, which I completed with more diodes (340 total)).
The first one seemed very quickly to be a game changer. Dermatitis (that improved a lot with massages) simply disappeared with brushing.

LLLT right after brushing made my scalp (at least it seems so, I’m self reporting without control group) as loose as my facial skin. And new hairs are showing up at a crazy rate.

Now for my (totally unrelated) question: it appears that scalp tension theory is valid. Even if science needs several studies and meta-analysis to consider something true, at least it’s acquired among folks that tried your method.
Yet there is a bit I find perplexing: temple peaks: it’s subject to androgenic alopecia though it’s on loose skin. I’m curious if you had an explanation about that.

Hey Diane,

I would try to avoid looking at the laser lights directly! I also had this concern when doing in-clinic LLLT treatments, as it was impossible to not catch some of the light reflected off the magazines you were given to read during the 30-minute sessions.

Best,
Rob

i worry that possibly look at the laser lites at some point in time even it is for a second or two, when putting it on or off head by accident if it is stillest. can this harm vision ?

Can you share more of your experience as far as details go? How many diodes? what kind of device? level of hairloss? age? Etc.

Thanks!

Great advice, Mike. Thank you!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29067617

https://www.hairlosscure2020.com/category/blue-light/

You HAVE TO watch your treatment times also. You can overdo very easy. Good thread here:

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/various-wavelengths-of-light-emitting-diode-light-regulate-the-proliferation-of-human-dermal-papilla.112586/

I can remember in the laser salon days when packages where so expensive that no one went that often which turned out to be to their advantage and were getting excellent results.

When the laser helmets(660 nm) came about and people use them 20 minutes-3x per week and results are basically non-existent.

I would suggest 1 treatment with the 830 maybe once a week or even once every two weeks.